Sunday, 21 December 2014

The Morning after the Night before. 19 December 2014

Extracts from a Complaint.

Only the rapid restoration of control of the Parish Council registered Village Green to the full Parish Council with public scrutiny will bring to an end the endless hostility between the Group and the Council that was described in the SELBY TIMES of 29 JULY 2010 under the heading “COUNCIL SPLIT OVER LAND ROW.  ‘Civil war’ erupts within Parish Council over Hagg Lane Green.  

FIVE YEARS. This nonsense must stop.  

Most of my evidence of events is contained in film recordings of Hemingbrough Parish Council between August and December 2014 so there can be no dispute about who said what.



 ..... conservation work under a Council mandate, direction and control.

At last night’s Hemingbrough Parish Council meeting ....... professional advice from the Yorkshire Local Councils Associations (YLCA) was read out by the Chairman.  The advice was that a Council “committee comprising two or three Councillors is formed to undertake a formal investigation into the issues that have been raised about Hagg Lane and the land funded for the project” because “it is not suitable that the Council continues to discuss this matter at each Parish Council meeting and seemingly not make much progress towards its resolve.”

The YLCA advice was specific that Councillors selected for the task will preferably not be or not have been involved in the Hagg Lane project.  

The experienced Councillor Strelczenie put it another way, saying in Council “This Parish Council may have been put into disrepute by the Hagg Lane Green Group.  The people we are talking about, the four ....... are aware that this Council may be in disrepute.”

Amongst the numerous issues is the recent finding by Freedom of Information Act that the ......

Parish Council discussions ..... do not suggest openness, transparency or giving the public confidence in this particular council.

Fortunately, the Council has sufficient members not involved, including the YLCA Selby Area Chairman and the recently co-opted Councillor Robert Proctor who is widely respected and trusted as the Fund Raiser for the Village Memorial Rose Garden and other projects. 

Unfortunately, the four named Councillors are on the Steering Committee of the local independent Group managing the Hagg Lane Village Green registered by the Parish Council. 

My complaint stems in part from the Government Publication ...... that instructs Councillors about duties set up by the Localism Act 2011.  

Parliament introduced some national rules .... .... are required to “disclose and register your pecuniary and your other interests.”

.... must not be obligated to organisations that might influence them in their official duties.  If they are, they must put an end to the matters.

Parish Records confirm the findings of the YLCA that Hemingbrough Hagg Lane Conservation Group is “an autonomous, unincorporated body completely separate from the Parish Council.”

Their Group meetings are timed so they already know the Parish Agenda they have been summoned to discuss later in the same week.

A publicity photograph and an election leaflet show .......  

That means a Council

The Council records show .....

Saturday, 20 December 2014

The Hagg Lane Green Group again. An example of how the Parish Council is being brought into disrepute.

According to the film record, Councillor McCann keeps banging on about a local Tree Surgeon who is a fellow, long-term Member of the independent Hagg Lane Green Group. 


A quotation for village Tree Work for £160 was given verbally to the Parish Clerk by the Council’s long-term Grass Cutting Contractor Fillingham and openly discussed at the October Parish Council meeting on 16th October 2014. Fillingham's are also Tree Surgeons with considerable East Riding Council tree work. 

Bell of the Hagg Lane Green Group was to be asked to submit a competing quotation by the Parish Clerk who prompted McCann with the question ‘Would you like a second opinion (about the need for the work to be done) then, Ken?” for same work.    At that meeting were Councillors Senior, the Chairman of the Hagg Lane Green Group, and Harrison.  That means three Councillors knew the specification of the tree work to be done and Fillingham’s price. 

Bell had not submitted that quotation by the November Parish Council on 20th November and nobody knew why!  

At the December Parish Council Meeting Bell’s oral quotation for that job was £100, £60 less than Filingham’s.  McCann told the Council “No, I haven’t spoken to him (Bell)”. Senior and Harrison didn’t take the opportunity open to them to say if they had ‘spoken’ to Bell.

As the minutes of the Hagg Lane Green Group meeting for 17th November show, (see Post immediately below shows) McCann, Senior and Harrison were together with long-term friend Bell.  Maybe nobody spoke to Bell that evening?

Anybody who has heard McCann banging on ad nauseum about Bell and Council Contractor Fillingham for the last few months with a marked preference of giving Bell some Council work, with Senior and Harrison present, will appreciate what a compromising position they are in as both elected Parish Councillors and Members of the independent Hagg Lane Group Steering Group Members in defiance of a ‘Nolan Principle’.

I imagine both Bell and Fillingham should be p***** off having their names and businesses fought over like a carcass.

Only Fools, or those with vested interests, would want to keep the Hagg Lane Village Green registered by the Parish Council out of control by the full Parish Council and under the control of an independent Group chaired by a Parish Councillor (Senior) and three, or is now four, Parish Councillor mates.

Anybody who conducts business like this deserves to go out of business.

Friday, 19 December 2014

Running Scared! Fingers in so many pies! (2)

No wonder there is a need for an enquiry.  

Why does a clique of Parish Councillors with a controlling majority on the Parish Council want to keep the Hagg Lane Village Green registered by the Parish Council out of Parish Council control and away from the 'prying eyes' of public scrutiny when it can control it in an independent group and ignore YLCA advice?

     

Running Scared! Fingers in so many pies!

Parish Council Meeting. 18 December 2014.

Hagg Lane Green “Subject to Enquiry”

The Leadership of Councillors Drew and McCann is already trying to change advice just received from the Council’s Professional Adviser, the Yorkshire Local Councils Associations (YLCA). 

Ridiculous talk about Solicitor charging £200 an hour to be charged to residents.

Councillor Chilvers suggested Drew & McCann follow the professional advice.  He identified three Councillors who meet the YLCA recommendations exactly.  One is the Chairman of the YLCA Selby Area!

Councillor Strelczenie said “This Parish Council may have been put into disrepute by the Hagg Lane Green Group.  The people we are talking about, the four (McCann, Senior, Pickering & Harrison) are aware that this Council may be in disrepute.”
Drew wants to discuss the whole at length, (ad nauseam?) because of Councillor “Fingers in so many pies”.   

Chilvers cut through the crap “Mr Chairman I disagree, there is one (Councillor) here, one here and one there who have had nothing to do with Hagg Lane Committees.  We have got three (Councillors Strelczenie, Proctor, Kinsella) here who have had nothing to do with Hagg Lane.  You don’t have to discuss it for months.”


The registered Hagg Lane Village Green must be brought back under total Parish Council control with public scrutiny without further delay.  Parish Councillors can’t examine an independent Hemingbrough Group with four Parish Councillors on the Steering Group contravening the ‘Nolan Principles’.          

Letter from YLCA Professional Adviser, Sheila Spence

‘Thank you for your explanation of this issue. I am writing to confirm our suggestion that it is not suitable that the Council continues to discuss this matter at each Parish Council meeting and seemingly not make much progress towards its resolve.


YLCA has suggested that a committee comprising TWO OR THREE COUNCILLORS is formed to undertake a formal investigation into the issues that have been raised about Hagg lane and the land funded for the project. The COUNCILLORS selected for the task will preferably not be or not have been involved in the Hagg lane project.  

This will help to bring independence to the enquiry.  The Committee should be asked to conduct a formal review and write a formal report and present its findings with formal recommendations to the Council.’

Thursday, 18 December 2014

Hemingbrough Chimpanzee’s Tea Party (2)


What the hell was District Councillor McSherry doing when she interrupted the Parish Chairman and turned to me in the public seats, where I must remain quiet unless the Chairman invites me to speak, and asked me a question?  
 

She should know her place by now.  She is a member of the public at parish council meetings.  Only the Chairman, not even Parish Councillors, talks to the public when the Council is in formal session.  Those are the Council rules.  She should sit in the public seats, as she does in Barlby & Osgodby.   

I hope Drew, McCann and the Clerk are not in charge of arranging Christmas Festivities in the Brewery.   

A Stitch Up

Councillors Chilvers, Kinsella, Proctor and Strelczenie had to step outside the Parish Council to raise funds to clear the eyesore of the disused Filling Station at the village entrance, set up a Memorial Rose Garden for the Great War soldiers, improve ‘Oldways’ and they have more village enhancing projects in the pipeline.


These Six Councillors, McCann, Harrison, Senior, Pickering, Wilkinson, Drew, controlled the Parish Council with 6 votes to five.  Four rarely speak.    Wilkinson left and was replaced by ‘Mute Newt’ Sedman.  They do very little but put our money in the bank.  They refused to support a Civic Project to honour the fallen of the Great War because Wilkinson, supported by McCann and the rest of the Gang, thought the idea was a whim of one individual, whom they revile.  They still have not made a donation to the Memorial Rose Garden, preferring to play ‘silly buggers’ to ignore their own meeting minutes.  They canned the Allotments project and the Parish Newsletter.  They reneged on their pledge to put Residents at the forefront of their intent.  They are not trusted.


Wednesday, 17 December 2014

Hemingbrough Chimpanzee’s Tea Party

Go to a Parish Council meeting controlled by a professional chairman and clerk, say Bubwith or Barlby & Osgodby, and you will not find visiting Country and District Councillors sitting at the same table as Parish Councillors.  They sit in the public seats. 

Parish councillors are summoned to the meeting to consider and transact the items on the formal agenda.  In law, the visitors have the same status as residents; they are not summoned to the meeting, they may give a report from the public seats on their wider area duties when asked by the Parish Chairman to do so, or respond to the Chairman’s questions.  They must not be heard at any other time, just like the residents.

Under the almost non-existent control of Chairman Richard Drew and the ineffectual Clerk, the visiting councillors sit at the parish table and are heard all too often.  For example, a most important session is when parish councillors discuss local planning applications often in the presence of the residents who submitted them. 

The visiting Councillors know they have been filmed, photographed and recorded showing they are a distraction and interfere with council protocol.

 
One of them, North Yorkshire County Councillor Mike Jordan, maybe speaking for all three visitors, took the view that in a meeting lasting only about 1 hour and 20 min “at County Hall we regularly get up and walk around during debate to talk to others without interrupting (sic) the debate. We do not like just sitting there as zombies and it is part of the process as you will have noted at The houses of parliament (sic). Formality taken to its end stifles debate and we do not want that!

 My view was: “Thank you for your explanation which concentrates entirely on the wishes and likes of Councillors and makes not a single reference to the Public.
In a public session of any Council I expect to hear the discussions so I may understand what the Council likes and prefers in local developments.  I may have particular interests in the planning applications being discussed.  I do not recall public Planning Sessions at Selby District Council morphing into a Chimpanzee's Tea Party.  What you do behind the scenes out of the gaze of the public is your own private affair.
My recordings of last month's Planning Session at Hemingbrough show that Councillors paid no attention to the public.  The noise was appalling!

McSherry chattering in the corner, Jordan moved seats to chatter with Deans right in front of the residents' seats. No respect!  

Last month, the Clerk and Chairman had to be given a note during the meeting to ask Councillors to be quiet as residents could not hear the planning discussions yet again against the background of chimpanzee chatter. 

Why didn’t Drew or the Clerk have respect for the residents?  Why didn’t Drew control the session?  The note was polite.  The content meant ‘We can’t hear, STFU!’   

Deans and Jordan. We can't hear. STFU!

The visiting councillors have been asked politely to move to the public seats so residents can hear and concentrate on their elected Councillors, and to observe council protocol, when they will be respected as guests who know their place.  I wonder if they will take any notice of residents trying to hear the meetings.  Will Chairman Drew? 

Tuesday, 16 December 2014

The Hemingbrough Parish Newsletter. What’s that?

“Everybody’s in the dark” Councillor Chilvers

When was the last time Councillors Richard Drew and Kenny McCann told residents about Council happenings?  When did you last see a Parish Council newsletter?  The subject surfaced in the November 2014 Council meeting.  Like most topics for our Council Leaders it was embarrassing.  Make no mistake, it is Drew and McCann’s duty, their responsibility as the sitting Council Leaders, to compile a Parish Magazine and oversee its delivery to every Parish household.  Not only is it embarrassing, it’s very difficult when these two Councillors have achieved virtually nothing other than get the Council Meetings over in record times



Drew calls the Parish Newsletter an expensive “Shop Dumping Exercise” and admits he has organised only one in almost two years as Chairman.  During his rambling, mumbling explanation for his attitude he gave no indication at all that he values any communication with residents. 

His deputy, Vice-chairman Kenny McCann didn’t seem to think it was his duty either.  What else can you expect from the Councillor charged with the Village Allotments Scheme?  McCann’s his only contribution in two years was to make them disappear from the Parish agenda?

Councillor Proctor and Chilvers emphasised the importance of all Councillors talking to residents as they and their Parish History Society colleagues had done when they delivered their Newsletter to every house in the village.

Will residents make Drew, McCann and their Mute Newt colleagues, Senior, Harrison, Pickering and Sedman disappear in the Council elections in May 2015 to the same dark place where the allotment proposal may be found?  These Mute Newts, who hold a majority of Council votes, still haven’t offered a donation to the Memorial Rose Garden. 

The village grapevine says some had a meeting about a Council donation with their ‘Hagg Lane Green’ hats on and all they were interested in was ensuring the Memorial Rose Garden doesn’t get any more than their £600 Council ‘maintenance grant’.  Such confidential ‘news’ spreads fast when it is shared with a heavily drinking Member who walks around the village.  

An inebriated Source spilled the beans about their fear of being recorded in December until one Councillor told them I have a different priority on the third Thursday of December so have never attended that Council meeting.  Drunk’s, eh?

Monday, 15 December 2014

Open Letter to North Yorkshire County Councillor M. Jordan

Police not welcome!

I call on you to apologise publicly to Steve Burrell of the North Yorkshire Police Service, and Hemingbrough Parish Council and Residents before Christmas.  You know you were filmed making remarks at our Parish Council Meeting under new national rules promoting greater public accountability.

You said “That’s where a gentleman called Steve Burrell of the Police comes in, and unfortunately he’s, he’s, err,  I’ll say it out loud, he is not a man that’s welcomed in a lot of places because of his ideas and his policies but he is part of the Police force, he’s the civil part of the police force, and he’s the Safety Officer with all the facts and the figures there that dictate whether an area should be a forty or a thirty.”

You added afterwards “There are other Councillors having similar issues in other wards and a campaign is gathering 'steam' as it were.”  Finally you have admitted you meant “specifically (one) village in that ward who have been let down and had their Parish Plan ignored.”

You abused our Parish Council privilege of allowing you to address Councillors and residents on behalf of North Yorkshire County Council.  You came here and tainted Mr. Burrell’s reputation by saying he was “not welcome in a lot of places for his ideas and his policies.’
 
In future, you should sit with the public, as you do in Barlby, and not sit at the Hemingbrough Parish Council table.  You can make your short report on behalf of North Yorkshire County Council and respond to the Chairman’s questions from there.  You must not insult our welcome by exaggerating and passing off issues in one particular village elsewhere as County Council matters.


I am reassured to know the Police and Crime Commissioner contacted you after learning of your accusation.

Thursday, 11 December 2014

Councillor Chilvers defends the right of Residents to be heard.

Chilvers to Chairman Drew “You’re trying to bury it”

Disgraceful, Disrespectful Drew and Vice-chairman McCann’s Dodgy Deal.




Faced with a resident’s NEW, formal proposal that the Parish Council debates once and for all the outstanding issues about Hagg Lane Green that devastate Hemingbrough Council meetings, and brings that Council-registered Village Green back under the control of the whole Council instead of letting an independent group of Councillors and their mates control it in contravention of national rules to avoid bringing Councils into disrepute, and with no public oversight, Drew and McCann try to dodge the resident’s proposal without any Council discussion and instead Drew proposes Hagg Lane Green should be removed from future Council agendas, thus protecting the mates with whom he campaigned for election to the Council, and avoiding outstanding issues such as ‘Did McCann lie to the Council and Public recently’, while McCann, the main spokesman for that independent group, sat and twiddled his thumbs (or jerked Drew’s strings).

Under intense pressure, Drew withdrew his proposal.  

What will happen next year?

WHY THE HELL DID THEY GO?

Hemingbrough Councillors Senior and Sedman formally ‘represented’ the village at the ‘Eastern Public Forum’, formerly known as a ‘Community Engagement Forum’ or CEF, at Riccall Regen Centre. 

Councllors Kinsella, Proctor and Strelczenie went too.  So did I.

Senior and Sedman quietly slid into the room, stood behind Selby Council display panels, didn’t associate with their three Hemingbrough Council colleagues, didn’t network with or circulate among other community leaders, dragged two chairs to the back of the room instead of sharing a table with others, had to be ‘encouraged’ by the organisers to sit at one of the tables (where I suddenly found myself sandwiched between the two ‘Mute Newts’ who are OK to chat to in the pub but are useless in public meetings) and unlike other parish representatives didn’t comment on ‘Plan Selby’ or anything else, or ask any questions. 

By contrast, Councillors Kinsella, Proctor and Strelczenie, who are actively involved in clearing the eye-sore of a disused filling service from the village entrance, fund-raising and setting up a Memorial Rose Garden and improving the ‘Oldways, circulated and networked to the benefit of residents.

In the absence of our District Councillors Deans and McSherry, County Councillor Jordan and the Community Police Representative, the Forum Chairperson Councillor Casling undertook to find out what Councillor Jordan meant on his last trip to the village:

North Yorkshire County Councillor Mike Jordan knows he was recorded on film telling Hemingbrough Parish Councillors in their formal meeting on 20th November 2014, when he could not be questioned by the public, saying the following:

“That’s where a gentleman called Steve Burrell of the Police comes in, and unfortunately he’s, he’s, err,  I’ll say it out loud, he is not a man that’s well welcomed in a lot of places because of his ideas and his policies but he is part of the Police force, he’s the civil part of the police force, and he’s the Safety Officer with all the facts and the figures there that dictate whether an area should be a forty or a thirty.”

Was Councillor Jordan speaking on behalf of North Yorkshire County Council, Selby District Council or both?  Where does Councillor Jordan say Mr Burrell is not welcome?  What are the ideas and policies held by Mr Burrell and the Police that are so unacceptable to Councillor Jordan and his colleagues?

Wednesday, 3 December 2014

Correspondence with the Council

Subject: McCann's Parish Council Claim “that was accepted by the Lottery”

Dear Chairman Drew,

At the September 2014 meeting of Hemingbrough Parish Council Vice-Chairman Kenny McCann volunteered the following information to Councillors and the Public about the ownership of the Hagg Lane Village Green, as your recording of proceedings will confirm:

This information was put forward to a Solicitor who looked over all the documents and was prepared to sign to say that there was no legal owner of the land from the extensive searches that had gone on and he was quite happy to do that AND THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE LOTTERY as the fact that there is no owner of the land.

I join Councillor Chilvers in challenging Vice-chairman McCann to show that “that was accepted by the Lottery” and explain why he kept quiet on the subject in the November meeting.  To date McCann has even concealed the name of the Solicitor who worked on this Parish Council action.

At the December 2014 Council meeting I challenge McCann to provide the Parish Council with either a certified copy of the Solicitor’s Letter he referenced in September 2014 and covering letters from the Parish Council to the Lottery Funds stating the Grant Applications were untrue, or have the you or Clerk produce those letters from the Parish files, and explain how his handwritten Grant Application to The Big Lottery Fund states “Hemingbrough Parish Council” in answer to the question “Who owns the land you plan to work on?

Perhaps McCann would also offer an explanation of why a Freedom of Information Act request for copies of all the Hemingbrough Grant Application communications with the Parish Council does not included any reference to the false claim including that ‘was accepted by the Lottery’.

I hope McCann can settle the issues but if he fails to backup his claims in December then I must re-phrase my Question to you asked in the November 2014 Public Forum:  “Will you agree with me that a discredited Vice-chairman who misleads the Council and the Public in a formal session of the Council should no longer hold Office on the Council?” 


Will you put that question to the Council in a named vote?

Did the Vice-chairman lie to the Council and the Public in the September 2014 Council meeting?



You will not read this in the Council's Official minutes.  
You no longer have to be there to see and hear what they are doing in our name.  

By the November Council meeting Councillor Chilvers was becoming even more exasperated, and rightly so.
  
Where is that letter?  It’s not in the Parish Files.  I want to see that letter.  You produce it.

It will take McCann only two minutes to prove his statements, or it will go on through Christmas and into the New Year, for a while .... 

In September 2014, before the availability of numerous letters from ‘The Big Lottery Fund’ under the Freedom of Information Act, Vice-chairman Kenny McCann volunteered information to the Council and the public:

McCann: “Schemes went ahead, money was spent. There was no money passed to Hemingbrough Hagg Lane Green.  The money was passed from the lottery through the Council accounts and then paid to Ground Works 

Hemingbrough Hagg Lane Group came to this Parish Council.  The Secretary/Treasurer (D. Hails) came with an application form to get it signed by the Parish Council, the Clerk, as the accountable body again and it was turned down. 

I can’t tell you why because as a Member of the Group I used to declare an interest and leave the room”

(Comment: Did McCann think nobody would check the Council minutes?  The official Parish record is that this McCann statement is untrue.

08/527 HEMINGBROUGH HAGG LANE GREEN:-
a) Ratify action taken by the Chairman at the 21st January 2010 Parish Council Meeting of seeking further advice from Selby District Council regarding Hemingbrough Hagg Lane Green. RESOLVED

b) The Chairman confirmed that he had attended a meeting at Selby District Council on Monday 15th March when he was told that they could not advise him on the issues in question and they recommended the Parish Council should employ a solicitor. They also recommended that Cllr’s Senior and Pickering should advise the Parish Council in writing as to why they would have to pay back monies already received and why the Hemingbrough Hagg Lane Group would receive no further grants.

Discussion then took place at length regarding the HHLGCG Grant application, the request for the Parish Council to be the accountable body for HHLGCG and the change in constitution of the Hemingbrough Hagg Lane Green Committee.

(Comment: McCANN is still in the meeting discussing “at length” the Grant Application.  He went out only for the vote at 10:40.  “I can’t tell you why .....” ‘WILL NOT’, more like.) 

District Councillor K McSherry and County Councillor Margaret Hulme left the meeting at 10.15pm and the discussion continued.

Cllr Senior left the meeting at 10.35pm followed by the two members of the public.  Cllr’s G Harrison and K McCann left the room at 10.40pm.

It was proposed, seconded and accepted with a show of hands that the Parish Council would not be able to complete the grant application as landowners as Hemingbrough Parish Council were not the Registered Landowners. RESOLVED

It was also proposed, seconded and accepted with a show of hands that the Parish Council could not become the accountable body for HHLGCG due to the change in their constitution.RESOLVED

Cllr’s G Harrison and K McCann then returned to the room.

(Comment: Two months earlier, McCann had remained in the council meeting for the following session

“08/493 DISCUS APPLICATION TO LAND REGISTRY FOR HAGG LANE GREEN AND ASSOCIATED AREAS
A councillor suggested that Hagg Lane Green is registered as a village green but another councillor advised that as there is no legal owner the Parish Council need to go for possesionary (sic) title.
A proposal that Hemingbrough Parish Council should go for possesionary (sic) title was made which was seconded.
A counter proposal that Hemingbrough Parish Council should not go for legal ownership was then made and this was also seconded. A vote on the counter proposal was then taken and achieved four votes. (COUNCILLORS McCANN, SENIOR, HARRISION, PICKERING)
A councillor then said that Hemingbrough Hagg Lane Green Conservation Group could not get lottery funding if the land was owned by the Parish Council and may also have to pay back grants that they had already received.
The Chairman then stated that he wanted to look into this further before any decision was made and advised he would seek advice from Selby District Council.“

(Comment: I must re-phrase my Question to  Chairman Drew: “Will you agree with me that a discredited Vice-chairman who misleads the Council (in September 2014) and the Public in a formal session of the Council should no longer hold Office on the Council?”)

McCann continues:

“Hemingbrough Parish Council at that time said it didn’t own it, the Village Green, and therefore it couldn’t be the accountable body,

So we were left with an application for £50,000 that we had put together and nobody owned the land.




A lot of hard work went into trying to trace the owner of the land.  North Yorkshire County were approached; they didn’t own it (the Hagg Lane Village Green).  Selby District Council were approached; they didn’t own the land either.

Extensive searches were done through Land Registry and other organisations and no owner could be found.

This information was put forward to a Solicitor who looked over all the documents and was prepared to sign to say that there was no legal owner of the land from the extensive searches that had gone on and he was quite happy to do that AND THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE LOTTERY as the fact that there is no owner of the land.

And that is still the case today. There is no owner of the land.

Councillor R Chilvers injection “Wrong”

McCann: That’s my brief summary

Chilvers injection “Wrong”

‘No legal owner’ is bunkum, rubbish.  Every piece of land in this country was allocated to somebody through the Enclosure Act. READ IT, carefully.

The other thing is Hemingbrough Parish Council was the accountable body to get the money from the Lottery and claim the VAT and that was in the original Constitution.  Someone took a paragraph out and that was when I fell out with the whole ??? and said this is wrong I’m getting out of this.”

Tuesday, 2 December 2014

“I’ll say it out loud” - North Yorkshire County Councillor Michael Jordan



It would have been better if Jordan had kept his mouth shut as his remarks added nothing to the Parish Councillors' discussion other than to open a hole in which to park his own foot.



“That’s where a gentleman called Steve Burrell (North Yorkshire Police’s Traffic Management Officer for York) of the Police comes in, and unfortunately he’s, he’s, err,  I’ll say it out loud, he is not a man that’s well welcomed in a lot of places because of his ideas and his policies but he is part of the Police force, he’s the civil part of the police force, and he’s the Safety Officer with all the facts and the figures there that dictate whether an area should be a forty or a thirty.

(Comment: Perhaps Steve Burrell already knows he is not welcomed in a lot of places, in which case local residents have a problem, or maybe he didn’t know what was being said about him until Councillors could be filmed and recorded in their formal meetings. 

Maybe an explanation in the local newspaper will reveal more?  There is obviously a problem that needs sorting out.      

Chairman Drew probably wished he had also kept his mouth shut as he tried yet again to prevent discussions by Councillors and felt the anger of a Councillor who wanted to mention the local wildlife. 

Drew’s poor Chairmanship is destroying the Parish Council in which he is supported by Vice-chairman McCann.  One of the first rules of Chairmanship is to ensure everyone is encouraged to speak, but Drew just wants to ‘move on’ as if he is desperate to do something else, and McCann whines and whinges while his Hagg Lane Green Gang keep schtum.)

“Drew: We are going to move on

Chilvers: No, you’re not!

Drew: Yes we are.

Chilvers: (irritably) You know the Standing Orders and any Councillor is allowed three minutes on any subject.  I have not had three minutes. You know you’re Standing Orders.  If you haven’t, Read Them!

Now then, the Sand Martins, they have been there for seventy years that I know of ..... “

(Well done, Councillor Chilvers.  Please stop Drew’s destructive “We are going to move on” nonsense.  Let the other Councillors speak, otherwise they might as well stay at home.)